Describe the theories you have developed through inferences about the community Jonas lives in. How do those theories conflict with how you live and what you know about the society you live in? Explain your answers.
Some inferences I made about the community Jonas lives in are that they don't know of any other place but this community. Another inference I developed was that the people are never truly happy even if they make themselves believe that they are happy. Plus, I think that the community isn't outside. I think it is more like an enormous building that was made to look like it was outside. I say this because it is completely flat and they never get rain or snow. These theories conflict with the way I live because I know about many different places all over the world and I really want to go to them. However, Jonas doesn't even know what the world is. Another reason is that we live in a world now where we can make our own choices and do what ever our hearts desire. Those things are what makes us happy. Jonas lives in a place where they can't do what they want and they can't do what makes them happy. My final conflict is that one thing I like to do is go outside, and I'm pretty sure that what Jonas thinks is outside is really just part of one big building that was made to look like a community. These theories conflict with what I know about my society because one thing I know for sure is that all people have rights and freedom of choice. In the community they are told when and how to do everything. Plus, no one can stand up for what they believe in because they would be released from the community. In conclusion, I have developed many theories about the community and there are several conflicts between Jonas' and my society.
I have inferred that Jonas's community is very organized and does not tolerate chaos or differences. This conflicts with our present day society. Today, there aren't as many rules as this society has. Our citizens, I feel, would not be able to keep track of all of them or try to bend around them. Also we can not be "released" from our community because we live in the "united" states.
I have theories about what being Released. I have a feeling that when you are released, basically, you die. When a child is a newborn and is labeled Inadequate, when you break a big rule, or when you are getting old, you are released. You can also sign up to be released in this community. In the society we live in, you don't typically sign up to be killed, it's for doing a serious crime, and even then, you aren't always killed, you could be put in jail. There has to be a very good reason to be given the death penalty. Also, when babies are born with disabilities, we don't kill them! They will live and be given a fair chance in life like everyone else! Lastly, when people are getting old, no one s assigned a date when they are to die, it just happens. It seems very strange for someone's date of death is determined as they are getting older. It just doesn't happen that way. Another theory I have about the community that Jonas lives in is that why the people only have three books in their dwelling. They probably didn't want the people to know much more about the outside world so they don't want to leave the community. We are taught to learn about other places so we have more knowledge of our surroundings. Our society today and Jonas' community are very different.
The community Jonas lives in is way different then ours. In our community we don't have that many strict laws or even have that many laws. I think their community is to tough. They only get three warnings and get released somewhere that no one knows about. Also that in our community we all have birthdays and they are in almost all different months. Their community they have no birthdays. They just go one age higher every time the ceremony takes place. Also every year they get something different and we get presents. Also they don't celebrated any holidays and their school year ends at 12. Ours end at about like 24-30 because we all do different things in college.
I think Jonas's community is influenced by a lot of factors. Most likely, there was a person who wanted to create the perfect group of people and decided to make a group of people live that way for a while. They could have also took out all the bad thinks of life when they did it so all that is left is a group of soulless people who do what ever the rules say. This contradicts how we live today by the fact that rules do everything. We may have many rules and laws but not everything we do has a rule to follow. For example. we do not have our jobs picked for us. We go to school to decide what fits our interests best. Then we pursue it and make a living out of it. We don't have rules about how we wear our hair or what kind of jackets we wear. We can ride a bike when ever our parents get us one. This community contradicts so much with how we do things today and most likely we would never follow all the rules if they were in place today.
In Jonas' community, there are different procedures than what we have here. They have separate things for each year you turn a different age. For example, they get different clothes, toys, and jobs for each year they turn a year older. On the other hand, we don't do these things. Instead, we just receive things as they come to us in life. Their life is more straight forward and simple. They are told when and where they need to do things, when we have to find out for ourselves. Therefore, their life is basically the opposite of how we choose to live.
Some theories I have developed through inferences in Jonas' community is it never snows. I can infer that It doesn't snow in Jonas' community because when the Receiver asked him if he's ever heard of snow, Jonas replied along the line of "I don't know what you are talking about." Another theory I developed is the community is built on flat land. In the story, Jonas was confused when the Receiver mentioned downhill. Therefore, I have developed theories through inferences
I have developed quite a few theories reading about Jonas’ community in the Giver, and a lot of them may make sense with the community he lives in, but in our world, they are completely foreign. For example, the Receiver of Memory seems to know all, and in our world, no one knows close to all. Many things are still unknown to us, unlike in the Giver, where the Receiver knows all. In addition, People in the Giver don’t know what it is like outside the community, and may never know, but in our world, people have many ways of finding out what other places are like, without leaving their own home (Thanks Google). In conclusion, many of the ideas the Giver has does not actually let us represent what our world is like.
I have many many theories based on the community that Jonas lives in. These theories conflict with how I live and what I know about the society I live in. One example of a theory that I made is that after people are released from the community, I think they're killed by some people from the community. This conflicts with the society that I live in because if people are released from something like a job, they aren't hurt or killed. Another theory that conflicts with how I live is that I think that everyone is expected to follow the rules, but this conflicts with how I live because I sometimes don't follow rules because some of them might seem ridiculous to have as rules. Those are some theories that developed though inferences about the community Jonas lives in that conflicts with how I live or about the society I live in.
These theories conflict with how I live because in my society, because in my society we have so many more freedoms, rights, and experiences than Jonas has in his society. For example, Jonas didn't even know what snow was. He had never experienced going down a hill on a sled. In our society a young child would never get smacked by a teacher for using a word incorrectly. Kids aren't smacked for using a word incorrectly. Children are given jobs and seen as an adult at only age twelve. There are endless conflicts between my society and Jonas' society.
One of the theories I have developed about Jonas's community is that when they release people, they kill them. Honestly, where are elderly people and babies going to go once they are sent to "Elsewhere?" I don't think there is an Elsewhere, and I never did. In the community I live in, no one gets killed unless A) Murder is committed B) It's to put them out of their misery
Every day in class we always discuss what we think is happening in the book. Since boys and girls in the community have to take pills for their stirring, my guess is that they prevent any feelings for each other by pushing away all thoughts with the medicine. Which is why they are able to pair spouses together. This would conflict with our society because we don't take any pills, and we form feeling for others naturally not by force. I don't think it's fair for the people of that community to be forced into a relationship with children they don't even know.
The society that Jonas lives in has many rules and regulations to follow and the people running this society is controlling it, trying to make it perfect. My theory of this community is that they're trying to make it as perfect as possible; I think they're hiding some kind of major secret on how the society works and an explanation. I also think that they don't want to keep people from going/moving to another place - that's why Jonas didn't know at first that there was an Elsewhere, where other people lived. In the society that I live in, people are free to move anywhere anytime they like; people know what's happening in areas around them, and even the other side of the world. This is very different from what Jonas is used to; he only thinks that his community is the only community with people living. We also know about different things; Jonas's community knows only the most simplest and basic things - they don't even know about snow but if you look outside the window now in this time of year, there is always plenty.
** Contains spoilers, do not post** Since I have already read the book, I know about the society Jonas lives in and how corrupt it truly is. The community in the Giver is an extremely controlled society containing many rigid rules regulating everything the people do in their lives from what they eat, to which jobs they take. Families are created by applying for a spouse, and getting one; then applying for a child, and getting one. Children are born through birth mothers, and all other reproduction activities are non existent due to a pill taken from adolescence. Babies who are “inadequate”, old people, and anyone who’s had a misdemeanor more than thrice is released. The term “released” actually refers to euthanasia by deadly poison. Pain and any kind of discomfort has been eliminated by the creators of this community and is aimed at creating an ample, productive society. There is also no color. This is differentiates from our society due to all of the strict limitations, control on “Sameness” and climate, and no color. In comparison our world is very free, and not as regulated with rules (mostly) to protect us from each other. In conclusion, you can see how much the two societies differ from each other.
Throughout the story so far I have came up with some theories. I think that the whole community is controlled. Everything in the community is chosen: the climate, the landscape, the children, the families, the jobs, the names, and how a person must live. In our community we experience all different climate changes and different landscapes. You can have more than two children and you get to name them and create them. When you get older you get to pick your job and you get to pick the course of your life.
The theories I have developed about the community Jonas lives in includes the idea that Jonas lives in a “perfect community” where everything is so precise. The way kids wear their hair, the type of clothes people wear, the time kids start riding a bike, and even the landscape is “perfect”as it has no hills and is not damaged by strong storms since there aren’t any. In the society I live in, we live very differently compared to Jonas’s community. The time people begin to do certain things in my community depends on when they feel the time is right. There is no real set time to do anything. For example,people in my community don’t have to wait until they are a certain age to wear a jacket with buttons in the front. People in my community can start wearing jackets with buttons in the front at whatever age they want to. Also, in my community the landscape is filled with different landforms. There is flatland, hills, rivers, lakes, etc. compared to Jonas’s community where there is just flatland; no hills.the theories I have developed from jonas’s community are very different from how I live in my community. Compared to Jonas’s “perfect” community, my community is anything but that.
I have many theories on about the way that Jonas through inferring. One of them is that they do not see in color or have different skin tones, as if everything is the same what is the need for that? Also the ability to lie is just something human and it is insane for that ability to be taken away from you. I disagree with no color and no different skin tones because there is no difference and no variety. Even though the ability to lie can be bad it can also be good if you do not want to hurt someones feelings. With that stated, those are my theories and my disagreements with the society.
Some theories I have developed through inferences while reading The Giver are that everyone in the community knows nothing except for their community. They know absolutely nothing of the outside world. Their community is so controlled that they do not even have snow. There is so much that they are missing out on. Nobody in the community, except for the Receiver, knows of anything other than the community. Also, things in the community are almost unnatural. The natural attraction between humans is stopped by the pill. Therefore the people have never experienced and will never understand those feelings of attraction. They will never feel love, because they are assigned to their spouse. It is not about love in the community, it is simply who the elders think will fit together in a better way. These things conflict the theories we know in life because, as part of our education, we study everything around us. In basic elementary, middle, and high schools, students are taught of cultures and countries and generations much different from their own. It is required of us to have knowledge of these things. We travel to these different places. Also, we must choose our own spouse, based on love. We must experience that connection and attraction ourselves, which is much different than the theories in The Giver.
What I've been able to capture from the book personally is a small isolated community placed in the future after some sort of catastrophe forced them into a more disciplined community with harsh and strange laws. In the book they call this "sameness." All together just reading about this strange community filled with idigenous people of some sort has been quite the experience. From the start this novel has put ideas in to my head that really bring this society in to reality with the relations I can make and also thankful for some relations I can't make. The way I live within my community with my genetic family and familiar friends is just an entirely diffrent base of ideas from what this community has managed to create, the way I see it (since I'm learning things in social studies like the bill of rights) it doesn't abide by many of the basic rights given to man in our society that we live in all together, in fact, it almost offends them. The community from the giver seems as though things are strange but their ignorance to the fact of a society like ours holds them back from basic rights and freedoms, in other words, just as we don't know any better but to call this society in our novel anything but crazy they would look upon our society as anything but normal as well. The giver has made me capable of expanding my knowledge and way of thinking about places that differ from our society and think beyond places that have the ignorance to things we have knowledge of.
Some inferences I made about the community Jonas lives in are that they don't know of any other place but this community. Another inference I developed was that the people are never truly happy even if they make themselves believe that they are happy. Plus, I think that the community isn't outside. I think it is more like an enormous building that was made to look like it was outside. I say this because it is completely flat and they never get rain or snow. These theories conflict with the way I live because I know about many different places all over the world and I really want to go to them. However, Jonas doesn't even know what the world is. Another reason is that we live in a world now where we can make our own choices and do what ever our hearts desire. Those things are what makes us happy. Jonas lives in a place where they can't do what they want and they can't do what makes them happy. My final conflict is that one thing I like to do is go outside, and I'm pretty sure that what Jonas thinks is outside is really just part of one big building that was made to look like a community. These theories conflict with what I know about my society because one thing I know for sure is that all people have rights and freedom of choice. In the community they are told when and how to do everything. Plus, no one can stand up for what they believe in because they would be released from the community. In conclusion, I have developed many theories about the community and there are several conflicts between Jonas' and my society.
ReplyDeleteI have inferred that Jonas's community is very organized and does not tolerate chaos or differences. This conflicts with our present day society. Today, there aren't as many rules as this society has. Our citizens, I feel, would not be able to keep track of all of them or try to bend around them. Also we can not be "released" from our community because we live in the "united" states.
ReplyDeleteI have theories about what being Released. I have a feeling that when you are released, basically, you die. When a child is a newborn and is labeled Inadequate, when you break a big rule, or when you are getting old, you are released. You can also sign up to be released in this community. In the society we live in, you don't typically sign up to be killed, it's for doing a serious crime, and even then, you aren't always killed, you could be put in jail. There has to be a very good reason to be given the death penalty. Also, when babies are born with disabilities, we don't kill them! They will live and be given a fair chance in life like everyone else! Lastly, when people are getting old, no one s assigned a date when they are to die, it just happens. It seems very strange for someone's date of death is determined as they are getting older. It just doesn't happen that way. Another theory I have about the community that Jonas lives in is that why the people only have three books in their dwelling. They probably didn't want the people to know much more about the outside world so they don't want to leave the community. We are taught to learn about other places so we have more knowledge of our surroundings. Our society today and Jonas' community are very different.
ReplyDeleteThe community Jonas lives in is way different then ours. In our community we don't have that many strict laws or even have that many laws. I think their community is to tough. They only get three warnings and get released somewhere that no one knows about. Also that in our community we all have birthdays and they are in almost all different months. Their community they have no birthdays. They just go one age higher every time the ceremony takes place. Also every year they get something different and we get presents. Also they don't celebrated any holidays and their school year ends at 12. Ours end at about like 24-30 because we all do different things in college.
ReplyDeleteI think Jonas's community is influenced by a lot of factors. Most likely, there was a person who wanted to create the perfect group of people and decided to make a group of people live that way for a while. They could have also took out all the bad thinks of life when they did it so all that is left is a group of soulless people who do what ever the rules say. This contradicts how we live today by the fact that rules do everything. We may have many rules and laws but not everything we do has a rule to follow. For example. we do not have our jobs picked for us. We go to school to decide what fits our interests best. Then we pursue it and make a living out of it. We don't have rules about how we wear our hair or what kind of jackets we wear. We can ride a bike when ever our parents get us one. This community contradicts so much with how we do things today and most likely we would never follow all the rules if they were in place today.
ReplyDeleteIn Jonas' community, there are different procedures than what we have here. They have separate things for each year you turn a different age. For example, they get different clothes, toys, and jobs for each year they turn a year older. On the other hand, we don't do these things. Instead, we just receive things as they come to us in life. Their life is more straight forward and simple. They are told when and where they need to do things, when we have to find out for ourselves. Therefore, their life is basically the opposite of how we choose to live.
ReplyDeleteSome theories I have developed through inferences in Jonas' community is it never snows. I can infer that It doesn't snow in Jonas' community because when the Receiver asked him if he's ever heard of snow, Jonas replied along the line of "I don't know what you are talking about." Another theory I developed is the community is built on flat land. In the story, Jonas was confused when the Receiver mentioned downhill. Therefore, I have developed theories through inferences
ReplyDeleteI have developed quite a few theories reading about Jonas’ community in the Giver, and a lot of them may make sense with the community he lives in, but in our world, they are completely foreign. For example, the Receiver of Memory seems to know all, and in our world, no one knows close to all. Many things are still unknown to us, unlike in the Giver, where the Receiver knows all. In addition, People in the Giver don’t know what it is like outside the community, and may never know, but in our world, people have many ways of finding out what other places are like, without leaving their own home (Thanks Google). In conclusion, many of the ideas the Giver has does not actually let us represent what our world is like.
ReplyDeleteI have many many theories based on the community that Jonas lives in. These theories conflict with how I live and what I know about the society I live in. One example of a theory that I made is that after people are released from the community, I think they're killed by some people from the community. This conflicts with the society that I live in because if people are released from something like a job, they aren't hurt or killed. Another theory that conflicts with how I live is that I think that everyone is expected to follow the rules, but this conflicts with how I live because I sometimes don't follow rules because some of them might seem ridiculous to have as rules. Those are some theories that developed though inferences about the community Jonas lives in that conflicts with how I live or about the society I live in.
ReplyDeleteThese theories conflict with how I live because in my society, because in my society we have so many more freedoms, rights, and experiences than Jonas has in his society. For example, Jonas didn't even know what snow was. He had never experienced going down a hill on a sled. In our society a young child would never get smacked by a teacher for using a word incorrectly. Kids aren't smacked for using a word incorrectly. Children are given jobs and seen as an adult at only age twelve. There are endless conflicts between my society and Jonas' society.
ReplyDeleteOne of the theories I have developed about Jonas's community is that when they release people, they kill them. Honestly, where are elderly people and babies going to go once they are sent to "Elsewhere?" I don't think there is an Elsewhere, and I never did. In the community I live in, no one gets killed unless A) Murder is committed B) It's to put them out of their misery
ReplyDeleteEvery day in class we always discuss what we think is happening in the book. Since boys and girls in the community have to take pills for their stirring, my guess is that they prevent any feelings for each other by pushing away all thoughts with the medicine. Which is why they are able to pair spouses together. This would conflict with our society because we don't take any pills, and we form feeling for others naturally not by force. I don't think it's fair for the people of that community to be forced into a relationship with children they don't even know.
ReplyDeleteThe society that Jonas lives in has many rules and regulations to follow and the people running this society is controlling it, trying to make it perfect. My theory of this community is that they're trying to make it as perfect as possible; I think they're hiding some kind of major secret on how the society works and an explanation. I also think that they don't want to keep people from going/moving to another place - that's why Jonas didn't know at first that there was an Elsewhere, where other people lived. In the society that I live in, people are free to move anywhere anytime they like; people know what's happening in areas around them, and even the other side of the world. This is very different from what Jonas is used to; he only thinks that his community is the only community with people living. We also know about different things; Jonas's community knows only the most simplest and basic things - they don't even know about snow but if you look outside the window now in this time of year, there is always plenty.
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ReplyDeleteSince I have already read the book, I know about the society Jonas lives in and how corrupt it truly is. The community in the Giver is an extremely controlled society containing many rigid rules regulating everything the people do in their lives from what they eat, to which jobs they take. Families are created by applying for a spouse, and getting one; then applying for a child, and getting one. Children are born through birth mothers, and all other reproduction activities are non existent due to a pill taken from adolescence. Babies who are “inadequate”, old people, and anyone who’s had a misdemeanor more than thrice is released. The term “released” actually refers to euthanasia by deadly poison. Pain and any kind of discomfort has been eliminated by the creators of this community and is aimed at creating an ample, productive society. There is also no color. This is differentiates from our society due to all of the strict limitations, control on “Sameness” and climate, and no color. In comparison our world is very free, and not as regulated with rules (mostly) to protect us from each other. In conclusion, you can see how much the two societies differ from each other.
Throughout the story so far I have came up with some theories. I think that the whole community is controlled. Everything in the community is chosen: the climate, the landscape, the children, the families, the jobs, the names, and how a person must live. In our community we experience all different climate changes and different landscapes. You can have more than two children and you get to name them and create them. When you get older you get to pick your job and you get to pick the course of your life.
ReplyDeleteThe theories I have developed about the community Jonas lives in includes the idea that Jonas lives in a “perfect community” where everything is so precise. The way kids wear their hair, the type of clothes people wear, the time kids start riding a bike, and even the landscape is “perfect”as it has no hills and is not damaged by strong storms since there aren’t any. In the society I live in, we live very differently compared to Jonas’s community. The time people begin to do certain things in my community depends on when they feel the time is right. There is no real set time to do anything. For example,people in my community don’t have to wait until they are a certain age to wear a jacket with buttons in the front. People in my community can start wearing jackets with buttons in the front at whatever age they want to. Also, in my community the landscape is filled with different landforms. There is flatland, hills, rivers, lakes, etc. compared to Jonas’s community where there is just flatland; no hills.the theories I have developed from jonas’s community are very different from how I live in my community. Compared to Jonas’s “perfect” community, my community is anything but that.
ReplyDeleteI have many theories on about the way that Jonas through inferring. One of them is that they do not see in color or have different skin tones, as if everything is the same what is the need for that? Also the ability to lie is just something human and it is insane for that ability to be taken away from you. I disagree with no color and no different skin tones because there is no difference and no variety. Even though the ability to lie can be bad it can also be good if you do not want to hurt someones feelings. With that stated, those are my theories and my disagreements with the society.
ReplyDeleteSome theories I have developed through inferences while reading The Giver are that everyone in the community knows nothing except for their community. They know absolutely nothing of the outside world. Their community is so controlled that they do not even have snow. There is so much that they are missing out on. Nobody in the community, except for the Receiver, knows of anything other than the community. Also, things in the community are almost unnatural. The natural attraction between humans is stopped by the pill. Therefore the people have never experienced and will never understand those feelings of attraction. They will never feel love, because they are assigned to their spouse. It is not about love in the community, it is simply who the elders think will fit together in a better way. These things conflict the theories we know in life because, as part of our education, we study everything around us. In basic elementary, middle, and high schools, students are taught of cultures and countries and generations much different from their own. It is required of us to have knowledge of these things. We travel to these different places. Also, we must choose our own spouse, based on love. We must experience that connection and attraction ourselves, which is much different than the theories in The Giver.
ReplyDeleteWhat I've been able to capture from the book personally is a small isolated community placed in the future after some sort of catastrophe forced them into a more disciplined community with harsh and strange laws. In the book they call this "sameness."
ReplyDeleteAll together just reading about this strange community filled with idigenous people of some sort has been quite the experience. From the start this novel has put ideas in to my head that really bring this society in to reality with the relations I can make and also thankful for some relations I can't make. The way I live within my community with my genetic family and familiar friends is just an entirely diffrent base of ideas from what this community has managed to create, the way I see it (since I'm learning things in social studies like the bill of rights) it doesn't abide by many of the basic rights given to man in our society that we live in all together, in fact, it almost offends them. The community from the giver seems as though things are strange but their ignorance to the fact of a society like ours holds them back from basic rights and freedoms, in other words, just as we don't know any better but to call this society in our novel anything but crazy they would look upon our society as anything but normal as well. The giver has made me capable of expanding my knowledge and way of thinking about places that differ from our society and think beyond places that have the ignorance to things we have knowledge of.